tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post6665385157472511686..comments2024-03-27T20:31:44.878-05:00Comments on Steve in a Speedo?! Gross!: Thirsty (for knowledge) Thursday: Running in the HeatSteve Stenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-81053630825520098462015-07-02T17:14:18.248-05:002015-07-02T17:14:18.248-05:00Thanks for running those numbers Anon! That's...Thanks for running those numbers Anon! That's an interesting comparison...Steve Stenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-86564278726370668932015-07-02T15:09:56.332-05:002015-07-02T15:09:56.332-05:00I believe the 10K at Victory is always run first a...I believe the 10K at Victory is always run first at 8am. That said the conditions were definitely horrid for racing that day.<br /><br />Since lots of the same people run Victory every year, and since the conditions in 2011 were near perfect, I compared those results to get a more accurate slowdown factor. Of the 32 people I found who ran it both years at 7:00 pace or faster the median slowdown was 2.74%. That would convert your 38:02 to 37:01 under more ideal conditions (5:57 pace), for a heat adjustment of around 10 seconds per mile on that day.<br /><br />This may be too optimistic but however you look at it there's no doubt that the pace adjustments in that chart you found seems fairly bogus!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-72325600431631914492015-07-02T09:13:30.228-05:002015-07-02T09:13:30.228-05:00Wait Anon, maybe that one did start earlier and I&...Wait Anon, maybe that one did start earlier and I'm thinking of something elseā¦ regardless, those numbers are also creeping up on the 1:45 "adjustment" time. I ran 6:07s and couldn't have ran 5:02s or 4:22s, so even in my multiple (potentially confused) comments, it's still very exaggerated.Steve Stenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-43128870445701611932015-07-02T09:06:03.195-05:002015-07-02T09:06:03.195-05:00I followed that link, Anon, and at 11 am, it was 8...I followed that link, Anon, and at 11 am, it was 85 degrees with a dew point over 60, which is around 75% humidity. Regardless of if that's 100% right or not, the chart still seems quite exaggerated for racing. But it might be a bit closer for training runs (but still a bit exaggerated).Steve Stenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-11460629079730749822015-07-02T09:00:10.682-05:002015-07-02T09:00:10.682-05:00Joe, that's a good point! And Anonymous, it w...Joe, that's a good point! And Anonymous, it was a mid-day race that had a few races (they had a least a 5K back then, and they maybe had a kids race too). So it was hotter at 11 am!Steve Stenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-44006308346692016822015-07-02T08:45:19.378-05:002015-07-02T08:45:19.378-05:00I agree those adjustments seem way overblown, espe...I agree those adjustments seem way overblown, especially when racing (perhaps not a bad starting point for longer training runs though). <br /><br />I think your memory of the 2012 Victory 10K conditions may be a bit overblown though - according to <a href="http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KMIC/2012/9/3/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Minneapolis&req_state=MN&req_statename=&reqdb.zip=55412&reqdb.magic=1&reqdb.wmo=99999" rel="nofollow">wunderground.com</a> it was 73 degrees at 7:53am and 75.9 degrees at 8:53am (with humidity from 76%-69%) so that chart would recommend running around 1:05 per mile slower (not 3:00).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-64238648568648961882015-07-02T08:12:22.055-05:002015-07-02T08:12:22.055-05:00I think the chart is saying how much you *should* ...I think the chart is saying how much you *should* adjust your pace by on a training run, not how much the temperature / humidity will affect your pace.<br /><br />And the fitter you are, the less you'd lose or would need to lose from your pace.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094675116398769415noreply@blogger.com