tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post2962018760803171429..comments2024-03-27T20:31:44.878-05:00Comments on Steve in a Speedo?! Gross!: Don't Let Your Mind Screw You OverSteve Stenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-17528843386773392302012-03-22T15:50:26.826-05:002012-03-22T15:50:26.826-05:00So now that we have confirmation of a fact that su...So now that we have confirmation of a fact that surprises nobody, it would be good to know what's effective to combat the nocebo effect.<br /><br />Mark's comment made me think about how much value we put on numbers and having feedback during a run/ride. Sometimes having too much information about pace, distance, etc. can be a source of negative thoughts (or positive ones, of course, but it seems like people who use Garmins and such write more often about being discouraged by the data they're getting...). <br /><br />I wonder if having that constant source of feedback can lead to a "nocebo" effect for some people. It would be interesting to hear from Garmin users vs. those who run "naked" (or somewhere in between, like me, with a stopwatch and a little piece of paper where I write down the mile markers).<br /><br />You seem to be one of the few running bloggers out there who doesn't use a Garmin and, like me, check your pace at known landmarks along the way. I kind of like getting feedback every mile or so, instead of constantly. I think I have a pretty good internal sense of pace, and it's getting better as I start doing tempos, intervals, and other workouts with a "goal" pace.Robynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14582049406998358870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-33724047209680273612012-03-22T10:19:43.027-05:002012-03-22T10:19:43.027-05:00Robyn, that's a good thought! I bet you'r...Robyn, that's a good thought! I bet you're on to something there...Steve Stenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11419298404210612118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-2715835727846823312012-03-21T13:27:25.512-05:002012-03-21T13:27:25.512-05:00It would be really interesting to see if the "...It would be really interesting to see if the "nocebo" effect is less strong in experienced athletes who have practiced mental techniques for overcoming negative thoughts and setbacks. After all, that's what we all try to do with visualization, positive mantras, inspiring slogans, our favorite music, and all the other things we do to get ready to race.Robynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14582049406998358870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-12862106480673564812012-03-21T11:32:01.832-05:002012-03-21T11:32:01.832-05:00I experienced this just last month. I learned my ...I experienced this just last month. I learned my normal 3+ mile run was 3.3 miles. I was doubling it for 6.6 miles. When I knew I was going that extra .6 miles, it felt harder the very next week than it had just a week before. I knew it was mental and I blowed through, but it was very real.Mark Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567392254011373198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-33353069909126746332012-03-21T10:04:31.579-05:002012-03-21T10:04:31.579-05:00I buy it! As a science PhD student, I have quite ...I buy it! As a science PhD student, I have quite the experience with the placebo effect and I know from conditioning experiments that negative reinforcement gives results faster than positive. So does Nocebo work? Of course. Is it stronger than Placebo? I wouldn't be surprised.<br /><br />Goes along with my favorite quotes/ideas - "You are capable of so much more than you believe." Therefore, your beliefs are what limit you, not your body. You just have to be willing to push to that limit and beyond.Kurt @ Becoming An Ironmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13865313303891773591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-63760473838344689502012-03-21T07:48:33.861-05:002012-03-21T07:48:33.861-05:00Great post, definitely falls in line with my recen...Great post, definitely falls in line with my recent marathon in DC. I had a bad training run leading in, where I bonked at mile 16, in the race, I was feeling great, then hit a wall at 16. Now the question, is how to re-train the mind to get around that barrier before the next one.Scott Poniewazhttp://www.scottponiewaz.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29677084.post-61009942070113097672012-03-21T06:48:52.774-05:002012-03-21T06:48:52.774-05:00Yes! I totally buy it as well. The mind is a power...Yes! I totally buy it as well. The mind is a powerful thing.Teamarciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02234702339055377426noreply@blogger.com